John Morss' Book
04/28/99

 I just finished reading an interesting book by John Morss called Growing Critical.

Morss is a clear and engaging writer and if you are trying to master the literature on postmodernism, you would do well to read his works.  In this book, however, he is primarily focused on one metanarrative, the metanarrative of natural development that does not pay attention to the social construction of that development.  That is, he deconstructs theories of development that do pay attention to the way in which the direction of the "developmental" change is fostered by cultural forces.

He does a marvelous job in reviewing the relevant literature on this metanarrative.  I particularly like his summary of the way in which Freud (and Lacan) sat on what might be called a postmodern fence, sometimes endorsing the metanarrative of development and sometimes escaping its closure.

I will try to give you some more ideas from his text next week.  You will be interested to learn what he has to say about the work of Fred Newman and Lois Holzman.
 
 

 For Your Reflection
04/21/99

Never seen a Narrative Therapy session?   Want read a transcript? Click here.  When you get to the site, page down a little bit.

This is the kind of therapy invented by David Epston and Michael White.  I think it  is a very political form of therapy.  As you can see, when Narrative Therapy works, the client emerges ready to resist the forces in the world that make them feel bad about themselves. That sounds very political to me.

How NT clients fight the forces that oppress them is controversial.  Should it be with protest?  That's the question we addressed recently when we talked of Kathleen Stacey's article talking about alternatives to protest and Karl Tomm's alternative version of NT.

It is a question worthy of your thought as it is still unsettled in our conversations.
 

Wittgenstein on Sense
04/28/99
Wittgenstein instructs us in a postmodern sensitivity to the different senses of terms.  Here is an example of his demonstrated sensitivity to different senses:
 
 
577.  We say "I am expecting him", when we believe that he will come, though his coming does not 'occupy our thoughts.'  (Here "I am expecting him" would mean "I should be surprised if he didn't come" and that will not be called the description of a state of mind.)  But we also say "I am expecting him" when it is supposed to mean: I am eagerly awaiting him.  We could imagine a language in which different verbs were consistently used in these cases.  And similarly more than one verb where we speak of 'believing', 'hoping', and so on.  Perhaps the concepts of such a language would be more suitable for understanding psychology than the concepts of our language.

I believe it is this kind of sensitivity to language, to the different senses of terms, that we must awaken in ourselves if we are to avoid the traps and closures of modernist thinking.
 
 
 
 

The PMTH Search Engine
04/27/99

Starting sometime later today this search engine should start picking up more recent PMTH NEWS.  When I installed it on 03/17/99, I understood the search engine would be automatically reindexed to pick up new information on the PMTH NEWS website.  Not so.  It was waiting for me to reindex it.

But now I have done that and learned how to do it, so the PMTH website will have more uptodate information available in its searches.

And, every now and then one of you write me personally to ask where an article on something is.  If you can recall any of the terms in the articles, you should be able to find it in the search engine.

Try it if you haven't done it.  Put in the name of a concept you want to research.  Or put in the name of an author that you would like to study.  Or put in your own name, if you're a frequent poster on PMTH.  .
 

 The Roots of Postmodernism
04/21/99

I want to suggest that there are two roots of postmodernism:

Poststructuralism and postpositivism.

Poststructuralism grew out of the critique of Saussure in France.  Derrida was the  pre-eminent poststructuralist, although Lacan was an important transitional figure towards poststructuralism. and, arguably, became poststructuralist rather than structuralist.

Poststructuralism tends to be obscure and difficult to read.  Partly this is because poststructuralists talk a lot about French theorists who are not very accessible, especially to an English speaking audience.  Partly it is because many poststructuralists have believed that it is better to be obscure, to make the reader work to understand, because in working to understand they understand more.

Postpostivism , I am suggesting, is  the other root of postmodernism.  Postpositivism is largely English and it centers (although not exclusively) around the work of later Wittgenstein.  It is a rejection of positivism and the positivist  project of making language more precise and more capable of functioning as a logical calculus.  Postpositivists tend to be much clearer writers than poststructuralists.  They use more ordinary sounding language and speak in shorter and more standard language forms.  One school of postpositivism is even called "ordinary language philosophy."

Poststructuralism and postpositivism come together, it seems to me,  in the flowering of postmodernism.  I am aware of several books that that bring them together (cf.Derrida and Wittgenstein by Garver & Lee, 1994 and Wittgenstein and Derrida by Henry Staten, 1984). Lyotard also seems a bridge to me between postmodernism and poststructuralism.  He references Derrida's ideas and learns from them.  He takes something of his style from the poststructuralists,  but he builds primarily, I think, off of the shoulders of the postpositivism of Wittgenstein.  This negotiation of a common language game between two different systems has made his work distinctive and  particularly powerful, in my opinion.
 

Another Tool
04/21/99

I have added another tool to our site, although I have not added it to our toolbar.  You can find it at the bottom of this website, just above the counter.  It's a webring.  A webring is made up of a group of web authors who collaborate to bring surfers to our sites.  The webowners share something of a common philosophy or purpose.

Our particular webring is a postmodern one.  It is called the Everything is Postmodern Webring. .  All the web authors who belong to this webring have postmodern sites.  If you go to the bottom of the page and click on the webring you will be taken to another postmodern site that is a part of this webring.  A similar tool is on the front page of all the sites that you will go to.  We are the fifteenth site to become a member of this webring.
 

Our New Front Page
12/11/98

Well, I entered a front page for PMTH NEWS in a couple of search engines.  I felt I could not enter PMTH NEWS directly because it has continuously changing content, so I entered a front page that will stay the same.

This front page will tell a little about our community and it will help to get your ideas out into the public eye.  It is the postmodern way of publishing, and, in my mind, a better way to bring your ideas to public attention, sometimes, than publication in one of the more traditional journals.

As you will see from this front page, I see us as a closed community of people brought together by shared interests and background who are willing to let the world look over our shoulder as we try to talk congenially through issues we find profound.
 
 

More on Post-Therapeutics
11/25/98
If you have been following my series on post-therapeutics, you know that it is a term that was introduced by John Stancombe and Susan White in their article, Psychotherapy without foundations? Hermeneutics, Discourse and the End of Certainty, which you'll find in the recent issue of Psychology & Theory.

You might also know that I have struggled a bit to understand what Stancombe and White meant by post-therapeutics even though I found the concept inspiring enough to lead me to say that there seemed to be two kinds of postmodern evolutions of therapy.

The reason I had such trouble understanding what post-therapeutics meant in the Stancombe and White article was explained as they near the end of the article when they say:
 

Thus far, we have eschewed any attempt to define post-therapeutics.  This avoidance is deliberate, since we do not wish to produce yet another prescriptive set of technical tools--a newer, purer order." 
Stancombe & White, p.594
They continue saying that they wanted to avoid a rigid definition of post-therapeutics because it is all too easy to convert such definitions into prescriptions which become new technologies of control (a la Foucault).

However, they add:
 

[I]t would be disingenuous for us to pretend that we have no ideas at all about the potential shape of a post-therapeutics.  Approaches which increase the number of voices in the therapeutic conversation, and which recognize the ordinary mutuality involved in helping, are stages along the road. 
Stancombe & White, p.595
I believe, however, that it would be helpful if we could discuss this concept more with the authors and to that effect I have invited Susan White to join us here.  She is now a subscriber.  (Notice I already have a link to her name in our database of names.)  Please welcome her into our conversation not only on the topic of her recent paper but on other topics as well.

And, if you have a chance to read their paper in the October 1998 issue of Theory & Psychology, I recommend you do so.
I will certainly be reading it again and I will try to introduce conversation topics about this article in future editions of PMTH NEWS.
 
 

Is Newman and Holzman's 
Social Therapy a Metanarrative?
11/21/98
I received some back copies of the newsletter put out by the East Side Institute for Short Term Psychotherapy yesterday, and there was an article in it by PMTH subscriber, Lois Holzman that caught my eye.  Holzman and Fred Newman are co-authors of the book, End of Knowing, and a few weeks ago PMTH subscribers were asking Holzman a number of questions about the book and the beliefs behind it.

One question that interested me that Holzman never explicitly answered in our conversations on PMTH was answered in this newsletter article.  My unanswered question was whether Newman and Holzman believed that they had found the last word with their form of therapy (which they call social therapy).  My answer is contained in a quotation Holzman makes of Newman saying to a group of graduating therapists:
 

What I'm saying to you I dedicate to all therapists who give themselves to help people.  The shame of it all is that a precondition for this helping is that someone be labeled as abnormal and stigmatized.  Far from being anti-therapy, we might be the most psychotherapy movement in existence!  We don't believe in therapy for only those who have been diagnosed or been to Bellevue or buy pop psychology books.  Therapy for us is a way of relating to all human beings; it's a modality of human interaction to help people from all walks of life.
See my answer?  Newman and Holzman are not rejecting therapies that are not their own.  However, they prefer therapies that do not pathologize clients.

See also:
Lois Holzman's comment on End of Knowing for PMTH
and
Tom Strong's review of End of Knowing for PMTH

Where is Social Therapy Happening?
11/25/98

Perhaps you recall that Fred Newman and Lois Holzman call what they do, Social Therapy.  I thought you might like to know where Social Therapy is conducted.  Equipped with a new stack of newsletters, I can tell you.  Unfortunately, I do not have the exact names of all the centers,  but if you are local to one of these cities and want to visit, and cannot find the center in your phone book,  I suggest you contact Lois Holzman or  Joyce Dattner.

  1. New York City East Side Institute
  2. The Long Island Center for Social Therapy Floral Park
  3. Philadelphia Center for Social Therapy
  4. Boston
  5. The Atlanta Center for Short Term Psychotherapy (Center Director Murray Dabby    is a PMTH subscriber)
  6. Washington Center for Social Therapy
  7. West Coast Center for Social Therapy
  8.  San Francisco, CA  (Center Director Joyce Dattner  is a PMTH subscriber)
Visit their website at:
http://www.castillo.org

Here is a question I am not able to answer: Is Social Therapy a post-therapeutic?
 

Bakhtin on Paralogy
11/21/98

Of course, Bakhtin did not write on paralogy because Bakhtin wrote half a century before Lyotard coined the current meaning of this important term.  But, still, like Lyotard, Bakhtin noticed that much language is defined contextually.  That is, people in local conversations use terms in specific senses that are negotated locally every time someone says something like, "I mean this term in the sense that..."  Look how clear it is that Bakhtin had noticed something like this happening when he wrote:
 

Neutral dictionary definitions of the words of  a language ensure their common features and guarantee that all speakers of a given language will understand one another, but the use of words in live speech communication is alway individual and contextual in nature. 
Mikhail Bakhtin, 1986, p. 88
Bakhtin, M. M. (1986).  Speech Genres and
   Other  Late Essays.  Trans. by Vern W.
   McGee. Austin:   University of Texas Press.
 
 
Theory and Psychology
11/16/98

Honest folks, I don't get a commission for selling you the journal that  I am going to tell you about, but if you are interested in postmodernism, and especially if you want to publish in this area, you really should try to get access to the journal put out by Sage called Theory & Psychology.  I only recently subscribed it after over and over discovering that an article I wanted to read had been published in this journal (which I found impossible to get through the library).

But if you cannot get access to it, know that I will try to keep you posted on its key articles, beginning with this issue of PMTH NEWS.

If you want to purchase it though, I suggest you look at the Sage web site or click here to write them to subscribe if you are in England.

For now, though, let me just type in the names of three key articles from their table of contents:
 

  1. Psychotherapy without foundations? Hermeneutics, Discourse and the End of Certainty (John Stancombe and Susan White)
  2. Against postmodernism: Psychology in cultural context (Ian Parker).
  3. The construction of stereotypes within social psychology: From social cognition to ideology (Martha Augoustinos and Ian Walker).

You will notice that there are two articles in todays' issue of PMTH NEWS on the second article above.  One is a past article in which I recounted Parker's criticism of our own PMTH subsubscriber's work, Lois Newman.  See that article by clicking here.
Or, click here to see a new article in today's issue of PMTH NEWS.
 

Parker's Criticism of 
The End of Knowing
11/11/98
In an article that came out today in Theory & Psychology, outspoken Marxist critical psychologist, Ian Parker, has this to say about Newman and Holzman's book, The End of Knowing:
 
 
For some writers, including those who are sympathetic to Marxist ideas (e.g., Newman & Holzman, 1997), postmodernism invites a form of relational politics which embeds 'selves' in social context and encourages collective action.
Parker is saying that Newman and Holzman believe that postmodernism supports political action.
 
 
There is a problem, though, with their collectivist vision of an 'end of knowing' which automatically discredits those who would think that it must be possible to find a place to step back and assess things.  ...It seems that Newman and Holzman (1997) risk celebrating that very absence of 'critical distance' which Jameson (1984) identified as a problem in postmodernism.  The pitfalls of collectivism in postmodernism pale into insignificance...when we discover what it has spawned, in a powerful strain of individualism. 

The rhetorical trick which appears time and again through the celebration of open dialogue in postmodern discourse is that when everything is up for grabs, those who are strongest will be the winners....There are plenty of postmodern psychologists who value dialogue, but when the ground rules for the dialogue are repeatedly eroded, all that is left is a battle of wills.  This discourse thus incites individualism, smuggling it in through the backdoor while it appears to simply celebrate perspectivism and appeals to the motif of uncertainty. 

Parker
Against Postmodernism, p.621
Parker, I. (1998). Against Postmodernism: Psychology in Cultural Context. Theory & Psychology.  8(5), 601-628.

See also:
Lois Holzman's comment on End of Knowing for PMTH
and
Tom Strong's review of End of Knowing for PMTH
 
 

More on
Ian Parker's Critique of Postmodernism
11/16/98
A few days ago I told you about Ian Parker's criticism of the Newman and Holzman book, The End of Knowing. Let me tell you a little more about Parker's article that appeared in the most recent issue of Theory & Psychology..

Parker is critical of postmodernism, but, in my opinion,  his criticism is not like that of Held.  Held's criticism, it seems to me, revolves around her definition of postmodernism.  I think she ends up supporting her own version of social constructionism -- she just puts this old wine in a new bottle and claims it for her own, calling it  'modest realism.'

Parker, on the other hand, seems to be more concerned with practical matters. I believe he really has a gripe with postmodernism although he surrounds his main gripe with fluff arguments that don't reach down to anything important.  It is worthy noticing in this regard, that Parker tells us that  he once tried to join the postmodern movement but has now stepped back "realizing that something is wrong" (p.613).

What is wrong?   As I told you in my last article on Parker's paper, Parker is critical of systems that he feels are insufficiently capable of political action.  I believe this is his central complaint about postmodern, that it fails to support political action as he envisions it.  But let us leave that for another time.  For now, let us glance at another of Parker's criticisms of the postmodern and see if you don't agree this kind of criticism is fluff, that is, it has no bite at all.  At any rate, at the end of this article I'll give you my answer to Parker's criticism.

Parker's Insubstantial Complaints
Against Postmodernism

To illustrate Parker's "insubstantial " complaints, look at what he says about the postmodern call to end dogmatic posturing and inflated presentations of our certainty by saying.  He says:
 

Postmodernism makes a virtue of its ambiguity and uncertainty (p.611).

Why is Parker claiming our declaring our uncertainty is bad?   He says:
 

[U]ncertainty, while enjoyable to some, can prevent others from coming to grips with [the postmodern] as a psychological or cultural phenomenon. (p.611).
I believe this sells postmodernism short.  Postmodern therapists are not being "uncertain" in order to better enjoy themselves.  We have come to believe we can expand our understanding better, and improve our lives more, if we do not overstate our knowledge.

Now, look at the second part of the sentence of parker's.  What do you think about Parker's criticism of postmodernism "not-knowing" that purports that it prevents others from "coming to grips with what the postmodern phenomena is all about?"

Frankly, I think there is a germ of truth to this point.  Yes, some postmodern articles are difficult for newcomers to understand.  And it is important to make our writing more accessible, however. until we can do so on a more regular basis, let us not throw out the baby with the bath.  There is space in the journals (such as this one) for us to have a place to work things out and make them clearer.

Postmodern Habit of Two Voices

But to assist us in this process, I would like you to consider the possibility that postmodern talk of speaking in two voices.  One voice is the voice of uncertainty in which we try to reveal the limits of our understanding.  The other voice I feel should be a rhetorical voice that presents a point of view forcefully as a move in the language game.  I think the rhetorical voice is more accessible and some of this increased ease in understanding will be carried over into discussions of not-knowing or incredulity.

To speak with both voices It would be like Katherine's making her position known and then suddenly suspending her disbelief to make space for the alternative position.  It would be what we do when we make our strongest pitch and then add, "at least that's what I think."

I think learning to speak of our two voices might help our clarity, and I think we do use two voices.  At least, all postmodern theories that hold my attention (such as CLS, social therapy, SFT) seem to say that they speak with both voices.  Either in therapy or in their theoretical treatises, they present their position forcefully, but then, make space for alternative positions, never claiming to have the last word.  They all refuse to shut the other up.  Lyotard would call such "shutting the other up" simply "terrorism."   We postmoderns would be better off if we owned these two different voices, and recognized that they were both critical elements in the postmodern conversation.

At least that is what I think.

All of Parker's quotations were taken from:
Parker, I. (1998).  Against postmodernism:
   psychology in cultural context. Theory &
  Psychology, 8 (5), 601-628.
 

What are Post-Therapeutics?
11/22/98
"Post-Therapeutics" is a term introduced by Stancombe & White who say,
 
Post-therapeutics... is about discourse facilitation and reflexivity....  [Such] Helping is a practical-moral affair, [and, in post-therapeutics, it] cannot be approached as if rational-technical answers existed.... 
This and similar comments led me to an enthusiastic first reading of this article, or perhaps a mis-reading.  I particularly liked Stancombe and White noticing that Lyotard rejected "performativity" as the legitimation of narrative (Stancombe & White, p.590).
On third reading I noticed that they also mentioned Lyotard's concept of legitimating narrative  with paralogy.

Stancombe and White's
Political Concept of Post-Therapeutics

However, I suspect Stancombe and White think of paralogy and perhaps  post-therapeutics as a conversation in which people try to persuade each other politically.  I have come to this conclusion because I have noticed that they list as one of their examples of postherapeutics a model that seems to me be more designed to persuade listeners to accept unpopular (i.e., nondominant) positions (or discourses).  They suggest such a political model when they present
 

The Anti-Anorexia League, started by Epston and described as a means to 'identify, document and circulate knowledges and practices that are counter to those knowledges and practices upon which the anorexia depends' (White,  p.147)... 
What I had thought
Stancombe and White Meant
by Post-therapeutics

When I first read Stancombe and White I had a different picture of what they were saying.  I thought they were proposing that local and provisional groups or communities establish their own therapeutic self-help process.   I envisioned (imaginatively) that "posttherapists" might be  postmodern therapists who were skilled in deconstructing the model of the expert and thereby capable of helping people overcome being mesmerized by popularized diagnostic literature as well as therapists who converted their problems in living into pathologies which could be cured through expert answers.

Paralogy in Meaning Development

I suppose what this tells us is that there can be more than one sense of "post-therapeutics" and that it sometimes takes two readings (or more) to gather the sense or meaning implied in another author's text.

But, paralogically speaking, it is often this slippage that contributes, in my opinion , to our postmodern creativity.  New ideas can blossom from misunderstanding, and new ideas is, as Lyotard tells us, the quest of postmoderns.

Will White Join Our Conversation ?

At any rate, I contacted Susan White a few days ago.  She responded to my note and seemed interested in joining our discussion.  I hope my re-reading does not discourage her, which she may read because I gave her the URL for PMTH NEWS.  Just in case, let me say to her directly that I would very much welcome her voice here even if she disliked my "creative reading" of the her text.

Whether she joins us or not, I will try to provide additional commentary on this interesting and worthwhile article in days to come.
(This is a slightly edited version of yesterday's article)
The excerpt of White's that Stancombe & S. White give us is in:
Epston, D., & White, M. (1992) Experience,
   contradiction, narrative and imagination.
   Adelaide: Dulwich Centre Publications...